Global Warming For Dummies Pt II: Denialist Fallacies 5-10
It’s about time I got off my bum and wrote the second part in the blog series which I started back on ‘Bruce’s Rave and Rant‘ in December of last year. So here it goes with 5-10. This has been fun. Maybe I’ll do a 1-10 of dramatist fallacies some time.
6. Weather isn’t climate people!
The work ‘Reconstructing Climatic and Environmental Changes of the Past 1000 Years: A Reappraisal‘ by Dr David Legates and Willie Soon (et al) is central to common denialist arguments; although their co-authors in . You can read their report here as a pdf (firefox users right-click and save target as.)
Legates, Soon (et al) claim that they have found evidence for a global medieval warm period; using dubious supporting evidence. How dubious? All of their data for any one period is regional. During a any period, you can have warm regions in areas that should be cool (take the effect of the Atlantic thermal currents for example) and vica versa. During a warm period, you can find cool regions and during a cool period, you can find warm spots. Legates, Soon (et al) found some warm spots in the medieval and hooray! Mission accomplished!
It irks when either a denialist claims regional cooling as falsification of the Callendar Effect and when dramatists claim a regional hot summer as confirmation. It’s not just parts or all of the atmosphere either; you have to take into consideration the temperature of the ocean which acts as a kind of heat sink. When someone is pointing towards a localised piece of evidence, be sure to check over your shoulder to see what evidence they are distracting you from seeing.
And Legates had the gall to get up and accuse Mann of presupposing the truth. Tut, tut.
7. “…the sun is like a light bulb that has recently heated up…” – Freeper ‘Blind Eye Jones‘ (2006)
Wrong as of the past couple of years. Anyone paying attention to solar cycles (aka Schwabe cycles) knows that output peaked in 2001 & 2002, dropped in 2003-2005 and bottomed out in 2006-now. As of writing this, we are in a solar minimum! Indeed, the new cycle (which starts during a minimum) is expected to start in this month!
The next time a denialist says that the sun has been putting out more heat of late (or less heat in future), point them in this direction.
In all fairness, “Blind Eye Jones’ was citing ‘…a French speaking prof (probably from Quebec) at the University of Toronto who I’ve see on Cpac…’, and “Blind Eye” didn’t tell us when he heard this source of information. I have however, come across this fallacy elsewhere on the Internet and abroad in discussion and it’s something that you have to be wary of. The usual manifestation of the argument is to say that a solar maximum occurs during a period when climate or local weather isn’t rising particularly fast. The more honest (but still wrong) manifestation is when the solar maximum is used to explain warming periods, the corresponding solar minimums not having equivalent effect in these “models” (ie. downturns in climatic temperature should be larger during solar minimums if solar cycles are the cause of upturns.)
8. “…the high point of global warming took place in the 1920s before any emissions and now the temperature is on the decline…” - Freeper ‘Blind Eye Jones‘ (2006)
“Blind Eye” must have turned that blind eye towards the facts. The peak in the 1940’s was larger and so was the peak in 2003. In fact, at no point since the 1920’s has a yearly climatic average been less than the high point of the 1920’s.
Have a squizz at this. Southern hemisphere figures are factored in as well.
9. “…Precipitation has increased on the poles! The ice sheets are getting thicker! Global Warming projections say other wise!”
Wrong. I’ve called Andrew Bolt on this straw man before and I’m calling Robert Matthews on it now (belatedly.)
The current IPCC model (upon which the Mann Hockey stick and other mainstream models are based) predict that oceanic temperature will rise. This sees increased precipitation at the poles (leading to thicker ice sheets), greater melting at the periphery (which is happening) and sea level change driven by thermal expansion (not by an ice-cap melting Waterworld scenario.)
You will notice that Matthews, in his article references the work that shows an increase in precipitation, but singularly fails to reference work by those he criticises (wrongly) as predicting that precipitation won’t increase. But hey, when you learn at the school of presuppositionism, who needs to do homework; don’t bother to research what your opponents are actually saying and make it up for them!
“For more than a decade, scientists have been developing sophisticated computer models of the Earth’s climate, in an attempt to forecast the impact of alleged global warming. While these models differ in their fine details, they all agree on one thing: that global warming caused by man-made pollution should strike the polar regions first.
(Robert Matthews, 2003)
When he does make reference to the IPCC generally, it’s only to misinterpret them;
“The 2001 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change – regarded as the scientific consensus on global warming – predicts that snowfall levels in the Northern Hemisphere should decline as the planet warms up.“
(Robert Matthews, 2003)
Matthews, the report says Northern Hemisphere. It doesn’t say norther polar region. Hint: Most of the Northern Hemisphere isn’t a polar region!
He’s cited Moore, he’s cited Polyakov, why hasn’t he cited the scientists and their computer models? Go over to the IPCC and have a look at what they are actually saying.
10. “The Temeprature of the Stratosphere is Falling!” – Paraphrasing Andrew Bolt.
This is another one of those “evidence for global warming is evidence for no global warming” stuff-ups of Andrew Bolt’s. Let’s explain; light from the sun passes through the atmosphere, where some is absorbed as infra-red in the atmosphere. The light is then re-emitted from the Earth’s surface as infrared light (heat). If this heat is captured by green house gasses, less heat makes it up into the stratosphere, not more! The callendar effect predicts a decrease in the temperature of the stratosphere, not an increase.
Seriously, this is a junior high exam question. Anyone who knows the basics of how greenhouse gasses trap heat can predict what happens to the stratosphere. So how did Andrew stuff this one up? Presupposition? Maybe? Doesn’t understand the theory he criticises? Perhaps? Outright black propaganda? An outside chance. Hanlon’s razor says he just plain stuffed up, so that’s what I’m going with.
Credit goes to John Quiggin for catching this boo-boo.
Conclusion
Global Warming Denialists have repeatedly dubbed themselves as global warming skeptics, but it’s as plain as the nose on the Mona Lisa’s face that they have chosen their conclusions first and cherry picked the evidence afterwards. It becomes all the more obvious when instead of cherry, they end up picking dingleberry for their evidence.
Skeptic Marcello Truzzi said it best with the words; “Since “skepticism” properly refers to doubt rather than denial–nonbelief rather than belief–critics who take the negative rather than an agnostic position but still call themselves “skeptics” are actually pseudo-skeptics and have, I believed, gained a false advantage by usurping that label.” (Marcello Truzzi, Zetetic Scholar, 1987.)
They deny facts, logic and reason. The only thing you need deny is their status as skeptics.
~ Bruce











The Left thinks it’s funny that they use the term Denier/Denialist to describe those that are skepical about the catastrophic climate predictions of never-been-right computer models.
There is a term for those that promote climate change and say the science is settled – Liar.
So, it’s a battle of Deniers vs Liars.
I’m sure you’ll struggle with http://ker-plunk.blogspot.com/2007/02/10-signs-that-youre-moral-idiot.html
PS – your #10 completely lacks scientific accuracy, which is no surprise when non-scientist Quiggin is the source.
I’m sure you’ll struggle with http://ker-plunk.blogspot.com/2007/02/10-signs-that-youre-moral-idiot.html
There is a term for those who produce well-worn lists of strawmen in lieu of making a substantiated argument: Liar.
Tell us why #10 is wrong Jack. You’ve made a claim, now back it up.
Incidentally, I don’t think I’m funny for calling deniers, deniers or pseudo-skeptics, pseudo-skeptics. I think I’m being accurate. Incidentally, how did you arrive at your conclusions of what I thought? Genuine skeptics tend not to believe in psychic powers either.
Back up your mind powers claim, and your “#10 is wrong” claim, and then I may just treat you seriously.
There is a term for those who produce well-worn lists of strawmen in lieu of making a substantiated argument: Liar.
Don’t forget Hanlon’s razor Arthur; he could just be incompetant. Or if Jen was right about Hanlon’s Razor as a false dichotomy, it could be malicious incompetance. Neither is lying, although he’s not being truthful, as the comments thread on his linked ot post exposes.
A few valid criticisms of his strawman arguments and a few David Tanesque cheerleaders; it doesn’t look like there’ll be any intellectual honesty on behalf of the author. Not worth the investiture of time commenting there.
I love the “The Temeprature of the Stratosphere is Falling” argument.
Now if we all lived in the stratosphere, everthing would be cool.
Hmmm… Jack doesn’t agree, but he still fails to point out why I’m wrong! Damn, without him helping me I’m nothing! Damn Environmental Science major*! You’re no good to me!
* Oh, Jack says I got my science from Quiggin (which I didn’t – I simply credited him for making the observation first), so that’s it! I wasn’t using my pre-existing understanding of how greenhouse gasses trap heat (which is actually demonstrated in denialist fallacy #1 on the old blog)!
With the realization that Exxon Mobil is if not the richest corporation in the world, very close to it – the denail will continue for a long time.
A Layman’s Review of the latest IPCC report (2007)
Is global climate changing?
Yes, undoubtedly. The only constant in climate is change. Average surface temperatures rose by around 0.6°C over the period from 1900 to 2000, possibly a few tenths of a degree less if we correct for the “urban heat island effect”. This warming trend already started around 1800, with 0.5-0.6°C warming over the period from 1800 to 1900, as well. Prior to 1800 the earth was in a global Little Ice Age, which started around 1300, with temperatures cooler than today.
Have atmospheric CO2 levels risen?
Yes. From around 290 to 375 ppm over the period from 1900 to 2000.
Is this increase in atmospheric CO2 levels man-made?
While man-made CO2 emissions are only a small percentage of the total carbon cycle, there is no doubt that man-made CO2 has contributed to at least a part of this increase.
Is there a scientifically proven link between increased CO2 and higher temperatures?
No. Just model scenarios that have been programmed in by the IPCC to demonstrate this link. Certainly the warming actually experienced from 1800 to 1900 and from 1900 to 1940 had little to do with man-made CO2 emissions.
If it isn’t from higher CO2 levels, from where is the warming coming?
We all know that the primary source of energy for Earth is the sun (not the exhaust gas from your automobile). Warming and cooling trends on Earth have always come from swings in solar activity, long before there were any automobiles or humans, for that matter. There are many scientific studies that show this link.
Is the “warmth of the last half century unusual in at least the previous 1300 years”, as the IPCC report states?
No. This is not true. It ignores the existence of the scientifically proven and historically well-documented global Medieval Warm Period, with temperatures higher than today.
But the latest IPCC report (2007) states that it is very likely that man-made CO2 is causing the recent and projected future temperature rise and that this will lead to all sorts of problems: melting ice caps; rising sea levels and flooding; reduction of snow cover and thawing of permafrost; higher ocean salinity; increase in severe weather events including droughts, heavy precipitation, heat waves and the intensity of tropical cyclones; loss of habitat and possibly even extinction for many species; increase of tropical diseases; increased deaths from heat waves; etc.
This all sounds pretty scary (as it is obviously intended to do by the writers).
But is there any sound scientific basis for these dire predictions?
Fortunately not.
To put it in plain words, the IPCC 2007 report is largely based on “junk science” backed up by “garbage in / garbage out” computer models and leading to unfounded “disaster scenario projections”. Some examples:
· uncorrected surface temperature records show more rapid warming than is actually occurring
· claim (unsubstantiated) that urban heat island effect has a “negligible effect” of “less than 0.006°C per decade” has been proven by two separate studies to be untrue
· more accurate, more comprehensive and more pertinent satellite temperature record of the troposphere (available since 1980) is ignored (this shows 0.3°C lower temperatures during last 10 years than the uncorrected surface record)
· claim (unsubstantiated) that discrepancy between surface and satellite record has been reconciled is not true
· models created to show that greenhouse effect from “anthropogenic CO2” is the primary driving force for climate change when there is no scientific evidence or proof for this supposition and a significant amount of paleoclimate evidence to show that CO2 does not drive climate change
· greenhouse effect of naturally occurring water vapor is ignored – instead water vapor has been programmed into the models as a “positive feedback” to man-made CO2, more than doubling the calculated impact of CO2 alone on warming
· impact of clouds is ignored
· effect of variations in solar activity are relegated to a very minor role in driving climate despite fact that past records for millions of years show this is the major driver of climate on Earth
· claims made that Greenland ice cap has melted from 1993 to 2003, causing an increase in sea levels of 0.21 mm per year while latest ESA study of essentially same period shows an increase in Greenland ice, equivalent to a lowering of sea levels by 0.27 mm per year
· claims that reductions in the Antarctic ice sheet have contributed to a further 0.21 mm per year rise in sea levels over the period 1993 to 2003, when latest ESA studies show a net increase in Antarctic ice, corresponding to a lowering of sea levels by 0.08 mm per year
· forecasts sea levels rising by up to 59 cm (23 inches) over next 100 years, when the international organization responsible for monitoring sea levels worldwide states that any prediction for the next 100 years exceeding a maximum of 20 cm (7.9 inches) is nonsense and 10 cm (4 inches) is more likely
· claims that world-wide tropical cyclone activity has increased both in frequency and intensity due to global warming, when the record outside USA shows a net reduction in both frequency and intensity and the US record shows a reduction from 1940 to 1995 followed by an increase from 1996 to 2005 (including 2005 with Katrina and Rita), followed by a drop in 2006, with overall 1940-2006 record showing essentially no statistical increase in either intensity or frequency; also, theory says these are driven by the temperature gradient between tropics and poles, which will decrease with warming
· claims that other extreme weather events, such as heat spells, extreme precipitation events, thunderstorms and tornados are increasing due to global warming when there are no comprehensive reports to show this and many local reports show there is no statistical change in extreme weather events
· claims that tropical diseases have increased and will continue to do so as a result of anthropogenic warming have been refuted by world experts on these diseases
· population checks on polar bears, for example, show these are stable or increasing slightly on average and have increased from around 5,000 in 1970 to 22,000 to 25,000 today despite the warming
All in all, we should ignore most of what is in the IPCC 2007 summary report, just as we should ignore the sensationalist press reports on global warming and its dire consequences and the calls by politicians for immediate action to stop this “impending disaster”.
It’s all hot air.
But why do so many scientists and political leaders plus many in the media support the man-made global warming theory?
“Cherchez l’argent.”
It’s driven by an estimated 2.5 to 4 billion dollars per year in climate research grants, with the grants going selectively to those scientists who make the most disastrous predictions.
The media also love disaster stories, since they sell better to the public than “it’s OK” reports, thus generating more profits for the media.
The politicians and bureaucrats love the idea of “carbon taxes”, higher taxes on fossil fuels, “carbon footprint offset” schemes, etc., because it gives them more money to spread around (and more power).
Not only that, but it’s also become “sexy” and “trendy”, with pop stars, Hollywood figures and many other “media darlings” jumping on the bandwagon.
It’s truly a “win-win” situation for everyone, except for the people that will end up paying for this circus: you and I.
We’d be much better off diverting our time and resources from this non-problem of “CO2 pollution” to address the true problems of today, such as poverty, hunger, genocide, slavery, disease, terrorism driven by religious fanaticism, illiteracy, lack of clean drinking water and electrical power for millions of people, world dependence on a dwindling supply of imported fossil fuels, killing off of the rain forests, real pollution of the environment, etc.
Just think what we could do in these real problem areas with 2.5 to 4 billion additional dollars per year, not to mention the hundreds of billions it would take to truly implement the provisions of the Kyoto Protocol…
Max Anacker 30 March 2007
A pity you can’t reference your assertions Max.
Like the origin of the scienifically proven “Medieval Warm Period” for example. Find me a study that postulates a “Medieval Warm Period” that doesn’t a) misconstrue conclusions about climate from regional weather data (fallacy 6), or b) misconstrue conlusions about temperature from precipitation data.
You won’t.
C’mon Max. A (ahem) skeptic doesn’t buy something without first undertaking some critical analysis. All you have done is list a number of claims.
Your obsession with CO2, without mentioning the increases in other greenhouse gasses also points to a lack of serious research on your part. Just copying the tabloids?
You’ll have to do better than that.
Incidentally, let’s see if Max sticks around to substantiate his claims. He’s been posting the above in the comments sections of a number of blogs.
Somehow I doubt that he’ll respond, unless he has far, far too much time on his hands.
i hate you
im just kiddin
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I’m glad. Although it would have been nicer to say all that in one comment and perhaps say at least something about climate change.
You could have accused me of being of the GREEN RELIGION! for example, giving me the opportunity to once again point out the difference between science and religion.
A datum.
I’d like to get my hands on the original published research (may see if can access it at Uni). It looks interesting.
However, aside from the obvious reason of wanting to see the original (i.e. journalists and bloggers in general aren’t as good as a primary source). Michael Asher has been giving uncritical spin on previous stories, such as last year’s average atmospheric temperature drop, going as far as drawing conclusions that aren’t supported (a drop to an average atmospheric temperature existent 11 years ago within a single year isn’t outside predictions – these things fluctuate from year to year).
Notably, on last year’s atmospheric temperature, Asher failed to recognise that a single year isn’t indicative of a downward trend, didn’t give a breakdown of which layers of the atmosphere are getting warmer and which are getting cooler (if the stratosphere cooled then it’s in line with global warming predictions) and importantly didn’t cite the average oceanic temperature for last year (not that I’ve been able to find it myself – although I’ve been quite busy).
There is likely more to what Zágoni is working on that Asher letting on (or aware of). That being said, a theoretical upper limit to warming is interesting, although as far as I can see it doesn’t necessarily prejudice all models where global warming occurs, it just excludes some of the more drastic ones.
Gee Bruce, why so quiet? Is it because 2008 is not turning out to be a very warm year, or because the sun is still sleeping and hasn’t yet woken to a sizzling cycle 24?
You need to do a little more research on the Medievel Warm Period. I have read a number of articles about evidence being found for it in various parts of the globe. Apparently it wasn’t just a regional “weather” thing.
Rick
Gee Bruce, why so quiet?
What on Earth are you on about? Quiet?
Is it because 2008 is not turning out to be a very warm year…
Yearly variation is expected in all of the major climate change models, and this variation by itself isn’t sufficient to break them. If it persists then the models have a problem.
You need to do a little more research on the Medievel Warm Period.
Would you care to back that up with some specifics? I’ve heard the MWP mantra before and seen some pretty rubbish arguments follow.
I have read a number of articles about evidence being found for it in various parts of the globe.
Again, specifics. Given your exaggeration of the importance of a year that is cooler than the last few, I’m not willing to go on your word/interpretation alone.
Rick, are you basing your claims on the forecast in Nature by Keenlyside et al?
Interesting reading, John. You seem to be bringing all the interesting stuff to the party of late, while I’m trapped with the mundane catering.
Personally, I was hoping Rick would bring us some reliable data that showed that the MWP was actually global, which would be news to me for sure.
Well, a response will show whether Rick is just a sniper.
That has been a bit of theme lately, hasn’t it, John?
Was thinking of writing a post on it and coming up with a suitable neologism, although “sniper” seems apt enough, so you’ve saved me that much work.
However, I’ve been doing my duties as a carer starting in the wee dark hours from (very) early this morning and have only just got home (6:15pm) so I’ll be shutting myself down for the night before I write a post about anything!
“Gee Bruce, why so quiet? Is it because 2008 is not turning out to be a very warm year, or because the sun is still sleeping and hasn’t yet woken to a sizzling cycle 24?”
An elementary confusion here between weather and climate, I would have thought. See The Rough Guide to the Weather for more…
An elementary confusion here between weather and climate, I would have thought.
In all fairness, NASA did detect a drop in the average temperature of the atmosphere (via satellite measurement) over the past year, globally speaking. It wasn’t an inconsiderable drop either, although some graphs doing the rounds show exaggeration by conflating surface temperature figures with the new satellite figures.
That being said, a drop in temperature, globally does not automatically equate to a breaking of climate change models that predict warming as there is scope/tolerance for yearly variation for a number of reasons (natural variance, ocean acting as a heat sink, etc).
In any case, one year doesn’t constitute a downward trend, at least not in the time-scales we are dealing with. In any case, statistics aside, one would observable changes in the stratosphere if the rate of heat escaping from below had increased significantly. Oddly enough, nobody brings this up when doing a song and dance about how the year’s figures from NASA have (supposedly) debunked global warming.
Perhaps it reminds them of past failures (the stratosphere is cooling!).
Man-made ‘global warming’ is a political fraud.
Yes, thankyou Scott for another example of argument from assertion.